"Shark-Attack" (shark-attack) 10/07/2015 at 20:13 • Filed to: Neighbors

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Alright oppo, could really use some advice with this one. Especially Oppos who have dealings with shitty neighbors, municipal/street codes in Oregon, etc.

A little background: So as many of you likely know, my 1985 635csi is my (more or less) DD. I also recently aquired an x308, and it is currently being kept in my garage. It’s a 2 car driveway, with a trailer on one side so really only space to access the garage. This means since I got the jag (last week) the e24 has been street parked. I ensure that I drive it every 3 days, at least, while it’s parking there. When I park it I also make sure that it’s not even close to the same spot as last time, due to issues with this in a similar situation before. I also have some lovely neighbors in my cul-de-sac, we’re talking barely running bro trucks littered everywhere, multiple violations of parking codes and street ordinances everyday. Parking vehicles side by side?! (Who the f**k does this) along the street. Not in front of each other but side by side. This is all from one little inbred wanna-be redneck family, who has a recorded history of harassing me. Long story short, the feud started with him trying to act like billy badass, then me stepping up and him running home, calling the police and telling them he was “in fear for his life” if that gives you an idea of the type of bro we are dealing with here. They ended up calling the police on my residence so many times and for such stupid things (I get really into my video games, sue me), that the last time an officer was here, he was laughing the whole time, and ended up going over there to give them a warning about misuse of an emergency number, and the possibility of a private lawsuit for harrasment (3 years ago-ish).

So today I go outside (I drove my car then parked it over 50 ft away from prev. Spot) and guess what’s waiting for me,

Not. Happy. (All the vehicles you see on the street in the background Sans the tent trailer belongs to the bros. At least one of them is currently not running whatsoever. Also, please excuse the dirty bimmer.)

It may seem a little paranoid that I jump to the conclusion that it’s their fault right? Maybe not so. I called the city of salem, who is responsible for these notes, and the supervisor informed me that they only leave the notes, they field the calls and complaints from citizens, then they head out. They now have a note in their system so it won’t be happening again, but I’d really like to deal with these neighbors. All my other nearby neighbors are fairly friendly and have commented that they like my cars and how I take care of them at one time or another, I don’t think they would complain. At this point I’ll be waiting outside their driveway when they get home to have a little, erhm, “chat” with the head of the household.

Anybody have advice? Should/can I sue? Should I just get my money’s worth from my friendly neighborhood bro? You tell me oppo.

bob and john > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:17

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this comes to mind....

Shark-Attack > bob and john 10/07/2015 at 20:21

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Ooooo dream weaver....

Jesus would that be satisfying.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:24

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hidden camera. record the situation. then, if the guy gets aggressive, call cops, show video, and say that he assaulted you (4th degree assault is something you can use even if he says something along the lines of “You’re ugly!”)

Also, google/read-up on tort law

jkm7680 > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:26

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Consult a lawyer.

RallyWrench > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:27

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It’s Oregon, so...

Shark-Attack > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 10/07/2015 at 20:33

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I actually had a similar plan, to get him to admit to harrasment more or less on hidden video. Good reading on tort law as well. Thanks.

Shark-Attack > RallyWrench 10/07/2015 at 20:35

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As much as I agree, I can’t argue worth a damn while under the influence, so I’ll have to wait till I settle down for the evening.

Shark-Attack > jkm7680 10/07/2015 at 20:37

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So you would agree that it’s worth at least getting into contact with a lawyer for? I almost feel like I’m maybe over reacting a teeny bit, but I tend to lose rational thought when people touch the shark.

jkm7680 > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:39

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If anything, it would educate you more on the subject and what your rights are.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:43

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lol, taking a business law class helps. I actually have a 3rd year law student teaching my class :P

Shark-Attack > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 10/07/2015 at 20:51

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Nice! I’d actually love to take a business law class, as my career choices at the moment are engineer, underwater welding, or something in the business or law field. Only problem is I want to pay for my college up front, hence why I just completed my TIG class. I’m hoping welding will make me the most money, with the least spent on initial schooling.

Viggen > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 20:54

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Normally I’d say go all Clint Eastwood on them. But if they’re rednecks they have fire superiority on you.

Nah just kidding. Gain a legal upperhand. Hidden camera, hidden mic-something.

Shark-Attack > Viggen 10/07/2015 at 20:58

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They don’t have guns hence the “wanna-be” part, on the other hand you could call me a gun enthusiast as well as a car enthusiast. I’d love to go ballistic on them but they’re confirmed cop callers unfortunately. The hidden mic/contact a lawyer is the smartest for me to do atm I think.

Viggen > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 21:02

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Well I was only kidding about the guns anyway.

iSureWilll > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 21:06

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Looks like Oregon is a single consent state for video, but dual consent for audio. 2nd link below

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northw…

http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/165.540

Shark-Attack > Viggen 10/07/2015 at 21:08

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Of course, more or less I’m saying there’s zero danger of me getting shot.

Shark-Attack > iSureWilll 10/07/2015 at 21:11

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This was the kind of stuff I was looking for. Thanks. Although that may be one of the stupidest things, if I have a conversation with someone, I don’t see why I cant record what they are saying. Just makes dealing with these people more difficult.

iSureWilll > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 21:13

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I’m with you. Especially if it is out in the street where there is no “reasonable expectation of privacy”. Maybe you could turn on the recording in your pocket before you go outside and just “accidentally” leave it on. After you confront them you “realize” you left it recording and show the cops :)

Shark-Attack > iSureWilll 10/07/2015 at 21:21

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This is what I’m thinking, but in that case wouldn’t any evidence get thrown out? Since it was more or less illegally obtained.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 21:22

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Problem Number 1: You live in Oregon.

Problem Number 2: You haven’t moved yet.

iSureWilll > Shark-Attack 10/07/2015 at 21:23

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Most likely yes - But I’m no attorney

Shark-Attack > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 10/07/2015 at 21:32

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Well while I can agree that Salem is awful, and portland is not any better, what’s wrong with Oregon? No extreme left wing-right wing laws, gun control is fairly lax, no state mandated emissions testing, and beautiful forests everywhere.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Shark-Attack 10/08/2015 at 00:48

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Neighbor wars is probably my biggest fear as a new homeowner. Because of one little spat or bad experience, from that day on, everyone is shitlisted indefinitely. All I hear are horror stories from my coworkers, friends, and family.

I don’t have any legal advice, but based on what I’ve observed, including once when my parents neighbor threatened to blow up their house, they seem like they are prepared and motivated to keep this up. It will be a difficult fight...

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Shark-Attack 10/08/2015 at 01:35

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yeah, they’re worth it IMO. I’m still in HS, but honestly? welding ETC doesn't seem like a bad idea as a back-up for college

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Shark-Attack 10/09/2015 at 09:41

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Well, I wasn’t trolling, exactly. And for the record, I’ve never lived in Oregon. In short, too many retirees, too little employment infrastructure and no tax base. And too many tree huggers and hippees. That’s why I would never consider living in Oregon.